RE: OT - SSN( Enforced Constraints (sic) ??

Hell, when I joined the gym they asked for it. I asked them what they needed for and they said they didn't and I did not have to supply it. Duh... I find it amazing how much they ask for the SSN here in the US. I don't recall being asked for my Social Insurance number this much back home in Canada. Hum, and there is less stealing of identities there. Hey, I may be onto something there....

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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:33 PM
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When the DMV first asked for my SSN, I gave them an incorrect one, because as far as I'm concerned they don't need to know it. Now that they actually check the number with the SSA I was forced to correct it. Most places are forbidden to require that you supply your SSN unless they need it to report taxable earnings. I regularly refuse to supply mine.

At 10:58 AM 6/12/01 -0800, you wrote:
>It's interesting that SSNs are not recycled. My mother works for the SSA
>and says they are after the person is deceased for a certain period of time
>(I forget the specifics). Also, a lot of people get nervous when you use
>their SSN for an identifier. I've noticed that most State Driver's
Licenses
>do not use the SSN at the license number anymore because people were
getting
>their identities stolen. The same thing goes for having it printed
>permanently on your checks.
>
>Let's calculate quickly on this one:
>
>250,000,000 million in the U.S. (Legal)
>999,999,999 possible numbers (xxx-xx-xxxx)
>-----------------------------------------
>equals mandatory recycling.
>
>--Michael
>
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>[mailto:Georgette.Cornio_at_cfsc.army.mil]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:18 PM
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>There is also a problem with SSNs, if you deal with Foreign nationals.
>We had that problem with a US Army program in Europe and Korea.
>We had to make up Unique numbers to fit the program.
>
>Georgette
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:41
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>SSN's are not recycled.
>
> >From the SSA OIG's testimony on SSN use and misuse before congress -
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> "The SSN is a unique identifier"
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> http://www.ssa.gov/oig/Testimony05222001.htm
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> SSN is a perfectly good PK for personnel systems. If you find duplicates
> your employer certainly needs to know about it.
>
> I once had a personnel database with 25 years of personnel data (about
> 1,200,000 individuals). When we loaded it into Oracle with the SSN as
PK,
> there was one duplicate SSN. Of course, that employer was very
> conscientious about requiring a valid SSN.
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