RE: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

Alex,

I think you are trying to not be incredibly rude?

How rude of you!

<grin, duck, and run like hell>

|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Hillman, Alex [mailto:Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov]
|| Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 3:39 PM
|| To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'; 'granaman_at_home.com'
|| Cc: 'MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com'
|| Subject: RE: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O
||
||
|| I hoped that everybody understand that this was a joke. I
|| use "damagement"
|| and :-) in the end. I hoped that it was grotesc. Apparently
|| I was wrong. My
|| apologies for all offended. For people who do not understand
|| humor I repeate
|| again that it was a joke.
||
|| Alex Hillman
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Don Granaman [mailto:granaman_at_home.com]
|| Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:01 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O
||
||
|| I disagree wholeheartedly with this statement Alex. How can
|| you make this
|| statement without knowing the situation? (You seem to be
|| becoming the
|| resident troller in this group! Sorry, but it does appear that way.)
||
|| In spite of all evidence and repeated warnings, management
|| often does not
|| allow the most reasonable "solution" - preferring instead to
|| play ostrich
|| and simply throw hardware at the problem. Then one day even
|| this isn't
|| enough or it becomes prohibitively expensive and they want
|| to hold someone
|| else responsible for their own bad decisions - and the all too common
|| scapegoat hunting expedition begins! That is when I usually
|| forward to the
|| "hunters" the same email that I sent them three years ago
|| (and two years ago
|| and a year ago , and six months ago, ...) analyzing the problem and
|| proposing a reasonable solution - with attached proof (e.g.
|| tkprof output
|| showing how rewriting a few problematic queries can reduce
|| CPU utilization
|| by a factor of 72 and LIO by a factor of 6200! A real life
|| example - that
|| stayed like this for over three and a hlf years!).
||
|| -Don Granaman
|| [certifiable OraSaurus]
||
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
|| Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:40 PM
||
||
|| > Of cource you did not do your job properly. Or are you
|| telling us that
|| > damagement did not do their job properly? I have never
|| heard anything more
|| > ridiculous. :-).
|| >
|| > Alex Hillman
|| >
|| > -----Original Message-----
|| > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:50 AM
|| > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| >
|| >
|| > Jared wrote:
|| >
|| > >I just *had* to point this out. Had too many damagers
|| want to solve
|| > >everything by buying HW when they have no idea what the
|| problem is.
|| > >
|| >
|| > how about Sun E650, 26 CPUs (yes, I said 26), 9GB RAM
|| >
|| > made the application fly. Until we hit THE ultimate peak
|| stress day and
|| > they died. I had spent the year prior screaming about how
|| the application
|| > needed some serious rewrite or we would die on that day.
|| Database had been
|| > "designed" (if you can call it that) by people who did not
|| know Oracle and
|| > so recreated their flat file system.
|| >
|| > They told me that the reason we died was because I had not
|| done my job
|| > properly.
|| >
|| > What's wrong with that picture?
|| >
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