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RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."

From: Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 12:17:40 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00323394.20010609120051@fatcity.com>

Jim,

Gulp! What have I gotten myself into? Okay, none of you will believe this but I'm shy and get stage fright. Stop laughing! It's true!!!!

Two roles, twice as much to memorize but I get to bring out the best and worst in me.

Rachel

>From: "Hawkins Family" <jhawkins_at_primary.net>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
>Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 05:50:19 -0800
>
>Rachel,
>
>Well, I didn't want to suggest you be the "bad girl" type right off the
>bat.
>What we can do is have you play two parts in the movie, one the "good
>angel"
>and one the "dark angel". That way, you can really bring out the best of
>both worlds.
>
>set director_talk on
>
>It's all about motivation. What motivates you? Yes, capture that and
>don't
>let go.
>
>set director_talk off
>
>Jim
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Jim Hawkins
>Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator
>MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.
>501 Pearl Drive
>St. Louis, MO 63376
>(636) 474-7832
>jhawkins_at_memc.com (work)
>jhawkins_at_primary.net (personal)
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Carmichael
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:16 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I promise to come see that movie! "do-good angel caught between Heaven and
>Hell" though? Darn it all, I thought I was more the "bad girl" type :)
>
>Rachel
>
>
> >From: "Jim Hawkins" <jhawkins_at_primary.net>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
> >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:47:38 -0800
> >
> >Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all
> >those who responded and weighed in. All of your input was extremely
> >valuable to me (and others).
> >
> >Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not
> >*happily*
> >write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so
> >I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion. That's right, we're
> >going straight to the big screen. Join me in next year's Cannes Festival
> >in
> >southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's).
> >
> >"Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the
> >Larry"
> >directed by Jim Hawkins.
> >
> >Starring (not in order of importance):
> >*Larry Ellison as God
> >*Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
> >compassionate
> >heart)
> >*Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
> >*Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven
> >and
> >Hell)
> >*Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
> >
> >And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know. Haven't built a
> >story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
> >combination film?
> >
> >But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood,
>and
> >have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes
>typing
> >this email.
> >
> >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
> >company.
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >--
> >Jim Hawkins
> >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator
> >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.
> >600 Pearl Drive
> >St. Louis, MO 633376
> >9636) 474-7832
> >jhawkins_at_memc.com (work)
> >jhawkins_at_primary.net (home)
> >
> > > 10% of GROSS sales? or net? I'd be really really surprised if it were
> > > gross.
> > >
> > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that.
> > >
> > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or
> >Kevin
> > > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800
> > > >
> > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures.
> >ie;
> > > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make
>around
> > > >$1,000,
> > > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc. No personal finances
> >involved.
> > > >Your
> > > > > mileage may vary, etc.
> > > >
> > > >100K?!
> > > >
> > > >In your dreams. Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is
> > > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site.
> > > >
> > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell
> > > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will
> > > >gross $30K from the book.
> > > >
> > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic. And if there are co-authors,
> > > >you will split the proceeds.
> > > >
> > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love.
> > > >
> > > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but
> > > >not many tech books sell that well.
> > > >
> > > >Jared
> > > >--
> > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> > > >--
> > > >Author: Jared Still
> > > > INET: jkstill_at_cybcon.com
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> >600 Pearl Drive
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> >
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