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RE: LOT (Little OT): Interesting Oracle related URL's.

From: <G.Plivna_at_itsystems.lv>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 03:17:12 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00321DD7.20010608023124@fatcity.com>

Hi!

I've removed all papers, You can test it ;)

I do agree that it maybe is a sort of crime, but if You have read about Open Source, then You know their world outlook about how to get known in the Internet world. I think this is one of the reasons many people don't like M$ and like Linux. Ok, ok these are Your rights to ask to withdraw these docs and I've done it.
On the other hand if somebody reads Your doc and gets more familiar with Oracle, I think we all may benefit from that, don't You think so? And if You and (our organization also) have enough money to buy necessary books and materials, it doesn't mean all other world has. Oh, but this is a big political issue and this list isn't for that. I would like also to mention that something like "it's still illegal. Period, end of story." leads to nothing. Such politics only lead to ever deeper conflict in every case. All things in world isn't only white or black. We have other colors, too.

P.S. I hadn't any direct or indirect profit from posting these papers, at least till today.

Gints Plivna

                                                                                       
                            
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Steve,

Thank you for the explanation. And I am adding my voice and vote to yours to
have the link removed.

Rachel

>From: "Steve Adams" <steve.adams_at_ixora.com.au>
>To: "Rachel Carmichael" <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>, "Multiple
recipients
>of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>CC: <marin_at_sirma.bg>, <gints_at_itsystems.lv>
>Subject: RE: LOT (Little OT): Interesting Oracle related URL's.
>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 05:40:51 +1000
>
>Hi Rachel and list,
>
>The person responsible for that site is Marin Dimitrov
>[mailto:marin_at_sirma.bg].
>Almost all the papers there are illegal copies (including one of mine). I
>once
>asked Marin to explain himself on the matter. His explanation was that the
>collection was for his personal use only. At the time, he removed the
index
>to
>make the collection largely invisible to the rest of the net, but it
>appears to
>have come back! It can also be seen at http://harbinger.sirma.bg/Oracle/
>and an
>older version is mirrored at
>http://www.itsystems.lv/gints/files/oracle/oracle.htm.
>
>I have copied Marin (and the person responsible for the mirror site) on
>this
>mail. Hopefully they will at least remove the indexes again, but I would
>prefer
>the papers to disappear too. Maybe if others add their votes to Rachel's
>and
>mine they'll take the stuff down. Bulgaria and Latvia may be immune to
>international copyright law, but individuals are seldom immune to
community
>disapprobation.
>
>@ Regards,
>@ Steve Adams
>@ http://www.ixora.com.au/
>@ http://www.christianity.net.au/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, 8 June 2001 3:01
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: RE: LOT (Little OT): Interesting Oracle related URL's.
>
>
>I hate to be a spoilsport -- but this link (actually the fact that the
>paper
>is on his site) bothers me...
>
>"DBA101: A Refresher Course"
>http://pillango.sirma.bg/oracle/N092_dba.doc
>
>Neither Marlene nor I gave permission for this paper (which is
copyrighted)
>to be posted there. Of course, he is not in the US, so the fact that this
>is
>illegal doesn't count.
>
>For what it's worth: it is only legal in the US to post a link to a legal
>copy of this sort of information. It is NOT legal to post copyrighted
>information without the express permission of the copyright holder.
>
>Having said that, I would have gladly sent a copy of the paper to anyone
>who
>asked or given permission to post it. But I would prefer to be ASKED.
>
>And Mark -- www.oracle-users.com now points you to the NY user group web
>page, as the company (Oracle User Resources) that sponsored it and the ECO
>conference, does not exist anymore.
>
>Rachel
>
> >
> >
> >Now, does anybody have anything to add to this? Papers that you have
>found
> >to be invaluable? ]
> >
> >Thanks again
> >
> >Mark
>



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