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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:44 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
sure you asked -- you wanted details on the rates etc... if I supply those, then I am making public my finances... which are no one's business but mine,
the IRS and my accountant
and since I am an author, yes you are asking me, if not directly then certainly indirectly.
>From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:27:57 -0800
>
>I did not ask about your finances ( standard incredibly rude - LOL). I did
>not ask you personally. There is no your name in my post. But if you decide
>to answer why it is the same it depends? I know very well that it depends.
>And by the way - it is not a big deal to get detailed info about somebody
>finances if this person did not take specific measures to make it
>difficult.
>If you keep your money in US banks, your investments in US brokerage, have
>insurance policies in US - usually to my knowledge it will cost only couple
>of hundred dollars to find all this info.
>So please relax and be happy.
>
>Sexist and incredibly rood Alex Hillman
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:56 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>every book deal is different -- based on the publisher's belief in the
>marketability of the author, the number of pages in the book, the selling
>price of the book, the number of authors and how well they negotiate.
>
>It's sort of like the request for the definitive answer on how to set your
>init.ora parameters -- "it depends"
>
>you negotiate a royalty rate. Someone who is a known author can usually get
>a higher rate. you negotiate on the "break points" - the number of books
>that have to be sold before the royalty rate changes (upwards usually)
>
>you get a different amount based on where the book is sold: a bookstore
>for
>
>full price, an online retailer who discounts it, a book club, domestic
>sales
>
>vs foreign sales.
>
>Then you have to negotiate with your co-authors on how to split this money
>up.
>
>Reading a royalty statement is an art.
>
>sorry, since I am not an elected official, and I am not asking you for a
>loan, my personal finances are none of your business.
>
>And I consider it incredibly rude of you to ask.
>
>
> >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:41:30 -0800
> >
> >Somehow this question and answers reminds me when I asked several years
>ago
> >one guy how much his house is worth. He became red and answered something
> >like roughly don't remember. I told him that his purchase is a public
> >record
> >and any real estate agent ( and I have licence but don't use it) can get
> >this info in a matter of minutes. The same story here - somehow everybody
> >telling you how minisqule amount they got from writing a book, however
> >nobody will tell you what are usual deal parameters, what percentages you
> >get from sales, how it depends on the sales volume etc. You should go
> >directly to the publisher and find this out. When I would like to ask
> >somebody what his or her ( no sexism :-)) rate is I ask usually what is
>the
> >range this position is paying and usually people do not have problem to
> >answer such question. Again, it is much better in my opinion to do self
> >publishing.
> >
> >Alex Hillman
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:32 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Jonathan,
> >
> >Everyone has there own reasons for wanting to write a book. For me, the
> >reasons are:
> >
> >1. Credibility with peers / clients
> >2. Sense of accomplishment
> >3. Enjoy sharing information with people
> >4. Some extra cash
> >
> >I would certainly say that the first 3 are TRUELY the reason that I would
> >consider such a project, but the extra cash is always a plus!! I
>certainly
> >am not interested in getting into anyone's personal finances...but could
> >you
> >give us some indication / range of what an author could expect to receive
> >from a book deal? I'm sure it varies depending upon the topic and
> >salesability...but what's a good range? How are book deals typically
> >structured?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Ed Haskins
> >Oracle DBA
> >Verizon Wireless
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:26 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Wednesday, June 06, 2001, 4:53:21 PM, Christopher Spence wrote:
> >CS> I hope your not doing it to get rich :)
> >
> >Chris brings up a good point. It's *extremely* difficult to
> >predict book sales in advance. Editors get surprised all the
> >time. Books we think will sell well, don't. And sometimes
> >it's the other way around. It's best to go in with low
> >expectations, and hopefully you'll come out pleasantly
> >surprised.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Jonathan Gennick
> >mailto:jonathan_at_gennick.com * 906.387.1698
> >http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com *
>http://MetalDrums.org
> >
> >
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