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I'd like to second this.... can't we keep our bashing to our own people on THIS list and not spread it to other lists where they can't defend themselves?
MUCH simpler to attack an unarmed opponent. But oh so much more satisfying to beat an armed one
>From: "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
>Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:35:29 -0800
>
>Yet more "tribal squabbling"? Or was this the "trivial b.s." part of the
>attack?
>
>"My daddy is going to beat your daddy up"
>
>Oh Jaysus Freaking Christ, what bullsh*t.
>
>|| -----Original Message-----
>|| From: Post, Ethan [mailto:epost_at_kcc.com]
>|| Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:13 PM
>|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>|| Subject: RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
>||
>||
>|| I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of
>|| "Survivor" to see who
>|| the most powerfull DBA in the world is. I'm willing to bet
>|| certain list
>|| opts are the first voted off. - E
>||
>|| -----Original Message-----
>|| Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:57 AM
>|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>||
>||
>|| Steve,
>||
>|| LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD have mercy!
>||
>|| If the "DBA union" develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional
>|| context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic
>|| squabbling & bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on
>|| hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended).
>||
>|| Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the
>|| dynamics of managing the "organizational culture" of a group. There
>|| has been a lot of research done on "computer mediated
>|| communication",
>|| "communities of practice", the inherent capacity of people to become
>|| "self-learning/self-aware" outside the realms of narrow minded, self-
>|| serving corporate/bureaucratic "expertise" and so forth. As far as I
>|| can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent
>|| conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any
>|| attempt to push the "organizational" boundries of hazyDBA's culture
>|| any further doesn't seem very promising.
>||
>|| regards,
>|| ep
>||
>|| btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main
>|| page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the "discuss" link undre
>|| the following heading (on the left just under the green banner):
>||
>|| "Followup to last
>|| week's forum
>|| This is a followup
>|| to last weeks forum.
>|| Discuss"
>||
>|| Apparently "last week's forum" refers to the next heading down which
>|| is titled:
>||
>|| "Is Henry awful
>|| or not?
>|| This section is to
>|| discuss the recent
>|| events on the list. Is
>|| Henry Awful or
>|| not?"
>|| (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5)
>||
>||
>||
>||
>||
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