RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

EP,

You were definitely too nice. So I'll
defer to you. I could use the practice.

Oh, hell, I can't resist a little bit. All we need is the crying and whining from hazyDBAs to form a voting bloc. Yea, that's the ticket.

Give me the denizens of Jared/Bruce-ville anytime.

RM

|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:PierceED_at_csus.edu]
|| Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:57 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
||
||
|| Steve,
||
|| LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD have mercy!
||
|| If the "DBA union" develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional
|| context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic
|| squabbling & bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on
|| hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended).
||
|| Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the
|| dynamics of managing the "organizational culture" of a group. There
|| has been a lot of research done on "computer mediated
|| communication",
|| "communities of practice", the inherent capacity of people to become
|| "self-learning/self-aware" outside the realms of narrow minded, self-
|| serving corporate/bureaucratic "expertise" and so forth. As far as I
|| can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent
|| conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any
|| attempt to push the "organizational" boundries of hazyDBA's culture
|| any further doesn't seem very promising.
||
|| regards,
|| ep
||
|| btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main
|| page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the "discuss" link undre
|| the following heading (on the left just under the green banner):
||
|| "Followup to last
|| week's forum
|| This is a followup
|| to last weeks forum.
|| Discuss"
||
|| Apparently "last week's forum" refers to the next heading down which
|| is titled:
||
|| "Is Henry awful
|| or not?
|| This section is to
|| discuss the recent
|| events on the list. Is
|| Henry Awful or
|| not?"
|| (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5)
||
||
||
||
||
|| On 5 Jun 2001, at 7:20, Steve Adams wrote:
||
|| Date sent: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 07:20:39 -0800
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
||
|| > No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the
|| "commercial DBA union"!
|| > The pre-announcement is at
|| http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?|| discussions:6
||
|| ...
||
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