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Oracel Support was Re: MaterializeRe: Snapshot Logs Explanation Needed

From: Dave Morgan <dave.morgan_at_cybersurf.net>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 09:03:39 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0031A33F.20010604081553@fatcity.com>

Hi All,

        Anita is absolutely right. Before making any changes to
        the data dictionary call Oracle support.

        Before using undocumented parameters call Oracle Support.

        Before doing anything that you do not know all of the side
        effects for, CALL ORACLE SUPPORT!!!

        You pay them enough, so use them.

Dave

"A. Bardeen" wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> /* SOAPBOX ON */
>
> I'm well aware that hacking the data dictionary is
> possible, but you'll never see me advocating that on
> the list. I believe hacking should be done only as a
> last resort to save a db or avoid rebuilding it and
> even then should be done only under the guidance of
> Oracle Support. In many cases even they won't let you
> make the changes, but will require dial-in access so
> they can make the changes to ensure that they're done
> properly.
>
> Since there are virtually no PK/FK relationships
> defined in the data dictionary it's far too easy to
> miss one of the relationships and end up with a
> corrupted dictionary. Said corruption may not
> manifest itself until days, weeks, or months later, at
> which point you'll have a bigger and messier problem
> than the original one. So even if you practice this
> on a test db and it seems to work OK, it might just be
> that you haven't performed the operations that would
> reveal the corruption.
>
> Definitely not something I want to attempt via email.
> IMHO the disclaimers "backup first" and "use at your
> own risk" are insufficient.
>
> /* SOAPBOX OFF */
>
> -- Anita
>
> --- Dave Morgan <dave.morgan_at_cybersurf.net> wrote:
> > Hi Anita,
> > I'm not sure if you are the original poster but
> > ....
> >
> > There is a way to force a view into fast refresh
> > mode
> > after you have restructured the snapshot logs
> >
> > WARNING: This is unsupported by Oracle and involves
> > messing
> > with the data dictionary.
> >
> > I once had to create a 4GB snapshot over an ISDN
> > line
> > This was done by creating the snapshot locally,
> > exporting,
> > ftp, import and then:
> >
> > In DBA_SNAPSHOTS (I believe) I compared the entry
> > in the local
> > database to the remote. One field was different in
> > my case. A simple
> > update to the data dictionary enabled the FAST
> > REFRESH to take place.
> >
> > THIS IS DANGEROUS STUFF :)
> >
> > Dave
> >

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