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RE: OBJ$ - PCTINCREASE 0

From: Mark Leith <mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:55:16 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.002B5533.20010215074646@fatcity.com>

A little more info from the customer:

This was originally a 7.3.4 database which was MIGRATED to 8.1.6. The decision was taken to export/import the full database. Before this was done, it was copied over to become the "Training" database.

The storage parameters for OBJ$ and its sibling in it cluster where set at PCTINCREASE 50. After the database was imported, the PCTINCREASE was set to 0. Comparing training and live showed the difference.

Two things happened. Obviously the number of extents in OBJ$ (and siblings) went up. Secondly, they experienced a more than tripling of the time to export and import from 14 hours to 46 hours, for an "unknown" reason, which makes for a very long weekend.

The users have not commented on adverse performance now the application is up, but the points that worry the site DBA are:

  1. Does having such a fragmented OBJ$ (etc) adversely affect performance?
  2. Even if another export/import is effected will it only do the same thing again? (thanks Rachel for the response earlier on the sql.bsq file, but will changing it survive any Oracle internals burning desire to do it its own way?)

All help appreciated!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
Carmichael
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 02:07
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

you can change the storage parameters. I had heard from oracle support that you could edit the storage parameters (but nothing else!) in the sql.bsq file before creating the database... so if you can edit it there, it stands to reason (okay, sits, I'm tired this morning) that you can change the storage parameters once it has been created.

but....... I would, of course, confirm this with Support :)

Rachel

>From: "Mark Leith" <mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: OBJ$ - PCTINCREASE 0
>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:05:24 -0800
>
>Hi guys & gals,
>
>Looking in to the system tablespace I have noticed that in 8.1.6, the
>SYSTEM
>tablespace has a default PCTINCREASE of 50%, BUT OBJ$ has one specified of
>0! Now, on 7.3.4 if "my" memory serves me right, this was also set to the
>default of 50%.
>
>My problem is that on a database running a number of apps this could, and
>is
>at a customer site, leading to high fragmentation of the OBJ$ table. Does
>anybody with an "inside knowledge" know why this has changed on 8i?
>
>Is it a huge NO NO to chance the storage characteristics of this table
>also?
>The customer has done a full database export/import form 7.3.4 > 8.1.6, and
>has ended up with pretty bad fragmentation..
>
>Any insight would be appreciated.
>
>Mark
>
>
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