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I have taken the stance with one junior that he now has to prove me wrong in anything I tell him. Loser buys the beer. He owes me quite a bit right now:-)
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 9:16 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Kimberly,
I could say the same thing.... of course, the other part is that I convinced
the programmers here that I knew what I was doing by letting them have their
way in development and watching it die... then converting it to what I wanted to do and watching it fly. Now they ask my opinion before they do anything.
Rachel
>From: Kimberly Smith <kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Pondering Question of the Day-RESPECT
>Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 08:11:03 -0800
>
>I have had that same issue in the past but I don't have it here. I find
>that
>as long as you have your managements support and the development team
>knows that then life will be much easier. I am very lucky here in that I
>have good management and a very well trained senior development team
>to work with. Not that there are never disagreements but comprise is the
>name of the game. You just got to be picky on what you let them think you
>are
>compromising on:-) I always have more issues with junior/intermediate
>developers.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 7:20 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>"Hello Oracle Guru"
>
>Now why is it that I get more respect on the Internet than I do in my
>workplace. ??
>
>How many of you have this problem? It's like an ongoing fight with
>developers, they want carte blanche in the production database, and they do
>whatever they want EVEN THOUGH I tell them NO, let's do something different
>that won't affect production. I go to the CTO because this is like the 3rd
>time this has happened, and he sends out a
>let's-be-sure-not-to-offend-anyone email. But the developer(s) will go
>ahead and do what they want ANYWAY. I'm waiting for the first user-mistake
>recovery to say STOP, I've had ENOUGH and this is how it's going to be, no
>ifs, ands or buts.
>
>My last job may have been a sweatshop, but at least people respected my
>authority. Here, it's a free for all no matter what I do. Even when I
>say,
>Dude, I own the database. If there's a problem, I have to fix it.
>Therefore I say what happens in production and what doesn' t happen in
>production.
>
>And yes, I am looking for another position. I can only take this
>dba/developer/janitor role for so long.
>
>I'M SO GLAD IT'S FRIDAY... Bring on the Captain Morgan! It's noon
>somewhere...
>
>Lisa Rutland Koivu
>Oracle Database Administrator
>Qode.com
>4850 North State Road 7
>Suite G104
>Fort Lauderdale, FL 33319
>
>V: 954.484.3191, x174
>F: 954.484.2933
>C: 954.658.5849
>http://www.qode.com <http://www.qode.com>
>
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>of Qode.com and cannot be attributed to or made binding upon Qode.com."
>
-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: carmichr_at_hotmail.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).Received on Mon Feb 05 2001 - 13:48:03 CST
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