VMWARE
is *sweet*, too.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>thx
<FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Glenn Travis
[mailto:Glenn.Travis_at_wcom.com]Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001
6:10 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:
RE: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.
Here
you go: Best of both worlds
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT
color=#0000ff>Win4Lin: Running Windows Applications Under
Linux
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>(Does everything except games).
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size=2>
<A
href="http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2957/1/"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2957/1/
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<FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: root_at_fatcity.com
[mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Mohan, RossSent:
Thursday, February 01, 2001 5:38 PMTo: Multiple recipients of
list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: RE: OT NT2K vs
Unix.
How about WORD2000 for Solaris 8???
Works great!!!
-----Original Message----- From:
Kevin Kostyszyn [<A
href="mailto:kevin_at_dulcian.com">mailto:kevin_at_dulcian.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 5:13 PM <FONT
size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT
size=2>Subject: RE: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.
What about Mechwarrior or Quake II, can I run that on Unix
and will it run smoothly? This is a fun
debate, but I do agree there will never be a <FONT
size=2>winner.
-----Original Message----- <FONT
size=2>dgoulet_at_vicr.com Sent: Thursday, February 01,
2001 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
I believe I've seen a shareware version of that out on the
web somewhere for various flavors of Unix with
X-windows.
____________________Reply
Separator____________________ Author: "Kevin
Kostyszyn" <kevin_at_dulcian.com> <FONT
size=2>Date: 2/1/2001 1:18 PM
Oh, and not only that, I like the GUI a lot more than I like
command based programming...unless.....can you play
solitaire on Unix:) -----Original
Message----- From: root_at_fatcity.com [<A
href="mailto:root_at_fatcity.com">mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
Rocky Welch Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001
3:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.
From the URL:
<A target=_blank
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/r">http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/r
eliable/default.asp
PCs Stay Up and Running <FONT
size=2> Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused
many of the system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To
put an end to these problems, we changed Windows
2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software <FONT
size=2>applications will interfere with one another.
Applications runing in a seprate memory
area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15 years ago.
Fewer Reboots
Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly
fewer reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows
2000. In addition, with its support for Plug and
Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts <FONT
size=2>to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices
such as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without
rebooting, and with less potential for user
error.
Reboots are also reduced-and reliability
increased-through the Microsoft hardware device
driver certification program. This program helps ensure that
hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do
not require a reboot after installation. Certified
drivers are tested and digitally signed by
Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not
digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before they
install it on their system
Not having to reboot after installing an
application....Unix from it's beginings.
How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000
Professional? Third-party studies that assess
reliability from three different <FONT
size=2>perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and
user perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000
Professional is the most reliable desktop operating
system.
Highest Reliability in Production Environments
NSTL collected uptime data in the real-world
environment of several customer sites and concluded
that the average system uptime between failures of
Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of Windows 98
and three times more than that of Windows NT
Workstation 4.0.
Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that
hangout with socially unacceptable people to make
themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is that
why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right
they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher
numbers.
Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the
debate about Windows and Unix. ;o)
Kevin Kostyszyn <kevin_at_dulcian.com>
wrote:
I would disagree with that, how is
Windows becoming like Unix?
-----Original
Message----- From:
root_at_fatcity.com [<A
href="mailto:root_at_fatcity.com">mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
Rocky Welch <FONT
size=2> Sennt: Thursday, February 01, 2001
2:01 PM To: Multiple
recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT
size=2> Subject: Re: OT NT2K vs Unix.
The same prediction was made
at least 5 years ago. At the rate Microsoft is
going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes more
like it with every release.
-Rocky
"Mohan, Ross"
<MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> wrote:
Yea,
but......
Win2K Datacenter
will just decimate Unix. I predict that, in <FONT
size=2> 5 years, there will be two
or three Unix vendors, fighting over <FONT
size=2> the 45% of the market that
DataCenter hasn't eaten.
-----Original
Message----- <FONT
size=2> From: Steve Orr [<A
href="mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com">mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com]]] <FONT
size=2> Sent: Thursday, February
01, 2001 1:01 PM <FONT
size=2> To: Multiple recipients of
list ORACLE-L <FONT
size=2> Subject: RE:
OT_RE:_Ref._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_
Close. It's Dave
Cutler. There's too much old DOS/Windows backward <FONT
size=2> compatibility for
WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite <FONT
size=2>Cutler's <FONT
size=2> leadership.
I knew VMS and
you, Mr. NT, are no VMS!
With apologies to
Senator Bentsen, <FONT
size=2> Steve Orr
-----Original
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size=2> stephane <FONT
size=2> Sent: Thursday, February
01, 2001 9:22 AM&< <FONT
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NT is based on
VMS (talk about a real OS) and if my <FONT
size=2> memory is good the guy's
name is Cutter.
Do I win a
toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot ?
--- "Mohan, Ross"
<MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> a ecrit : > <FONT
size=2> "...Standing,
corrected, and sniggering....." <FONT
size=2> > Odd picture,
that...... <FONT
size=2> > <FONT
size=2> > <FONT
size=2> > Anyways, pop
quiz:
> >
On what OS kernel technology is NT based? <FONT
size=2> > <FONT
size=2> > Who was the original
designer and what was his/her <FONT
size=2> > first OS?
>
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<DIV><SPAN class=125085120-01022001><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Oh,
and not only that, I like the GUI a lot more than I like
command based programming...unless.....can you play
solitaire on <FONT
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[<A
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Behalf Of </B>Rocky Welch<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:28
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of <FONT
size=2>list
ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OT NT2K vs
Unix.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <FONT
size=2> <P>From the URL:</P> <FONT
size=2> <P><A
href="<A target=_blank
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/over">http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/over
vi ew/reliable/default.asp"><A
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onal <FONT
size=2>/solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp</A></P>
<H3>PCs Stay Up and Running</H3>
<P>Memory conflicts and missing or altered
system files caused many of the system
crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we
changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the
chance that software applications will
interfere with one another. </P>
<P>Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did
that 15 years ago.</P> <FONT
size=2> <H3>Fewer Reboots</H3> <FONT
size=2> <P>Performing routine maintenance on your system
requires significantly fewer <FONT
size=2> reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In
addition, with its support for Plug and Play,
Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts
to
hardware changes. This means users can easily add
hardware devices such as scanners, DVD
players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less <FONT
size=2>potential
for user error.</P> <FONT
size=2> <P>Reboots are also reduced-and reliability
increased-through the Microsoft <FONT
size=2> hardware device driver certification program. This program
helps ensure that
hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require
a reboot
after installation. Certified drivers are tested and
digitally signed by Microsoft. If Windows
2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not <FONT
size=2>digitally signed, it warns users about
the risk before they install it on their
system</P><A
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vi <FONT
size=2>ew/reliable/default.asp"></A>
<P>Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from
it's beginings. <FONT
size=2> <H3>How Much More Reliable Is
Windows 2000 Professional?</H3> <FONT
size=2> <P>Third-party studies that assess reliability from
three different perspectives-lab-based
testing, customer-site measurement, and user
perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the
most reliable desktop operating
system.</P> <H3>Highest
Reliability in Production Environments</H3> <FONT
size=2> <P><A
href="<A target=_blank
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/reviews/nstl.a">http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/reviews/nstl.a
sp ">NSTL <FONT
size=2> collected uptime data</A> in the real-world environment
of several customer
sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures
of
Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that
of Windows 98 and three times more
than that of
Windows NT Workstation 4.0.</P>
<P>Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like
people that hangout with socially <FONT
size=2> unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait
a minute! Is that why alot of people want to
hang out with me? ). I guess you're right <FONT
size=2>they
aren't the same. Unix posts much higher
numbers. <P>Sorry, it's sarcastic
Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows <FONT
size=2>and Unix. ;o) <FONT
size=2> <P> <B><I>Kevin Kostyszyn
<kevin_at_dulcian.com></I></B> wrote:
<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN
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size=2>I
would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like <FONT
size=2>
Unix?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <FONT
size=2> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <FONT
size=2> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader
dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma <FONT
size=2> size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> root_at_fatcity.com
[<A
href="mailto:root_at_fatcity.com">mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Rocky <FONT
size=2>Welch<BR><B>Sennt:</B> <FONT
size=2> Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients <FONT
size=2>of list
ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: OT NT2K vs
Unix.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
<P><BR>The same
prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate <FONT
size=2> Microsoft is going, Windows will be a
direct form of Unix. It becomes more
like it with every release.
<BR>
<P>-Rocky <BR> <FONT
size=2> <P>
<B><I>"Mohan, Ross"
<MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com></I></B> <FONT
size=2>wrote:
<BR><BR>
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name=Generator><BR><BR> <FONT
size=2> <P><FONT
size=2>Yea, but......</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I
predict
that, in</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>5 years, there will be
two or three <FONT
size=2> Unix vendors, fighting
over</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the 45% of the
market that
DataCenter hasn't eaten. </FONT></P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>From:
Steve Orr
[<A
href="mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com"><A
href="mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com">mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com</A>]]]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01
PM</FONT> <FONT
size=2> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Subject: RE: <FONT
size=2>OT_RE:_Réf._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_</FONT>
</P><BR><BR><BR> <FONT
size=2> <P><FONT
size=2>Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old <FONT
size=2> DOS/Windows
backward</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>compatibility for
WinNT/2000 to
achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's</FONT> <FONT
size=2> <BR><FONT
size=2>leadership.</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no
VMS!</FONT> <FONT
size=2>
</P><BR><BR> <FONT
size=2> <P><FONT
size=2>With apologies to Senator Bentsen,</FONT>
<BR><FONT <FONT
size=2> size=2>Steve
Orr</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR> <FONT
size=2> <P><FONT
size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>stephane</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday,
February 01, <FONT
size=2> 2001 9:22
AM&<</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To:
Multiple recipients of
list
ORACLE-L</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and
if
my</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>memory is good the guy's name
is
Cutter.</FONT> </P><BR><BR> <FONT
size=2> <P><FONT
size=2>Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot
?</FONT>
</P><BR><BR> <FONT
size=2> <P><FONT
size=2>--- "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> a
écrit : ></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>"...Standing, corrected,
and
sniggering....."</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Odd
picture,
that......</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT <FONT
size=2>
size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>
Anyways, pop quiz:</FONT> <FONT
size=2> <BR><FONT
size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> On
what OS kernel <FONT
size=2> technology is NT
based?</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>></FONT> <FONT
size=2><BR><FONT <FONT
size=2> size=2>> Who was
the original designer and what was <FONT
size=2>his/her</FONT> <FONT
size=2> <BR><FONT
size=2>> first OS?</FONT> <BR><FONT
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