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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> RE: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.
What about Mechwarrior or Quake II, can I run that on Unix and will it run smoothly? This is a fun debate, but I do agree there will never be a winner.
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dgoulet_at_vicr.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I believe I've seen a shareware version of that out on the web somewhere for various flavors of Unix with X-windows.
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "Kevin Kostyszyn" <kevin_at_dulcian.com> Date: 2/1/2001 1:18 PM
Oh, and not only that, I like the GUI a lot more than I like command based
programming...unless.....can you play solitaire on Unix:)
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From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Welch
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:28 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.
From the URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/r eliable/default.asp
PCs Stay Up and Running
Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the
system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we
changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software
applications will interfere with one another.
Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15 years ago.
Fewer Reboots
Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly fewer
reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition, with its
support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts
to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices such
as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less
potential for user error.
Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the Microsoft hardware device driver certification program. This program helps ensure that hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require a reboot after installation. Certified drivers are tested and digitally signed by Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before they install it on their system
Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's beginings.
How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000 Professional? Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most reliable desktop operating system.
Highest Reliability in Production Environments NSTL collected uptime data in the real-world environment of several customer sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures of Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of Windows 98 and three times more than that of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.
Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with socially unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers.
Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows and Unix. ;o)
Kevin Kostyszyn <kevin_at_dulcian.com> wrote:
I would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like Unix?
-----Original Message-----
From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
Welch
Sennt: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: OT NT2K vs Unix.
The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate
Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes more
like it with every release.
-Rocky
"Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> wrote:
Yea, but......
Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict that, in
5 years, there will be two or three Unix vendors, fighting over
the 45% of the market that DataCenter hasn't eaten.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Orr [mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com]]]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT_RE:_Ref._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_
Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old DOS/Windows backward
compatibility for WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite
Cutler's
leadership.
I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS!
With apologies to Senator Bentsen,
Steve Orr
-----Original Message-----
stephane
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:22 AM&<
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if my
memory is good the guy's name is Cutter.
Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot ?
--- "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> a ecrit : >
"...Standing, corrected, and sniggering....."
> Odd picture, that......
>
>
> Anyways, pop quiz:
>
> On what OS kernel technology is NT based?
>
> Who was the original designer and what was his/her
> first OS?
>
>
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Mail Personal Address - only $35 a year! <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=125085120-01022001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Oh, and not only that, I like the GUI a lot more than I like command based programming...unless.....can you play solitaire on Unix:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Rocky Welch<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <P>From the URL:</P> <P><A href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/over vi ew/reliable/default.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professi onal /solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp</A></P> <H3>PCs Stay Up and Running</H3> <P>Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software applications will interfere with one another. </P> <P>Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15 years ago.</P> <H3>Fewer Reboots</H3> <P>Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly fewer reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition, with its support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices such as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less potential for user error.</P> <P>Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the Microsoft hardware device driver certification program. This program helps ensure that hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require a reboot after installation. Certified drivers are tested and digitally signed by Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before they install it on their system</P><A href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/over vi ew/reliable/default.asp"></A> <P>Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's beginings. <H3>How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000 Professional?</H3> <P>Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most reliable desktop operating system.</P> <H3>Highest Reliability in Production Environments</H3> <P><A href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/reviews/nstl.a sp ">NSTL collected uptime data</A> in the real-world environment of several customer sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures of Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of Windows 98 and three times more than that of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.</P> <P>Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with socially unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers. <P>Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows and Unix. ;o) <P> <B><I>Kevin Kostyszyn <kevin_at_dulcian.com></I></B> wrote: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601" name=GENERATOR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class=312000819-01022001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like Unix?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Rocky Welch<BR><B>Sennt:</B> Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: OT NT2K vs Unix.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR> <P><BR>The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes more like it with every release. <BR> <P>-Rocky <BR> <P> <B><I>"Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com></I></B> wrote: <BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR><BR> <META content="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12" name=Generator><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>Yea, but......</FONT> </P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict that, in</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>5 years, there will be two or three Unix vendors, fighting over</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the 45% of the market that DataCenter hasn't eaten. </FONT></P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: Steve Orr [<A href="mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com">mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com</A>]]]</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: RE: OT_RE:_Réf._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old DOS/Windows backward</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>compatibility for WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>leadership.</FONT> </P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS!</FONT> </P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>With apologies to Senator Bentsen,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Steve Orr</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>stephane</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:22 AM&<</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if my</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>memory is good the guy's name is Cutter.</FONT> </P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot ?</FONT> </P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>--- "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> a écrit : ></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>"...Standing, corrected, and sniggering....."</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Odd picture, that......</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Anyways, pop quiz:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> On what OS kernel technology is NT based?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> Who was the original designer and what was his/her</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>> first OS?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> </P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>-- </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A target=_blank href="http://www.orafaq.com/">http://www.oraaafaq.com</A></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>-- </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Author: Steve Orr</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> INET: sorr_at_arzoo.com</FONT> </P><BR><BR> <P><FONT size=2>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>San Diego, California && -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>----------------------------------------------------------------- ---</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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