RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

From: Mohan, Ross <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:08:05 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.002A80CD.20010201130220@fatcity.com>

Reboots:

Did
you realize you DO have to reboot after some Solaris package installs? Maybe
not
"all" and maybe not "Solaris 8", but.....certainly some of them with kernel hooks
in
2.5.

Crashes:

Most
of them due to poor third party driver authoring -- MS, a software company, gave
too
much MoJo to developers. Imagine that. Same reason most of their software
swamps
the market. People can USE it. Shocking Development!
<G>

-----Original Message-----From: Rocky Welch [mailto:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com]Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:28 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.
 From the URL:
 <A
 href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp PCs Stay Up and Running
 Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software applications will interfere with one another. Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15 years ago.
 Fewer Reboots
 Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly fewer reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition, with its support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices such as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less potential for user error.
 Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the Microsoft hardware device driver certification program. This program helps ensure that hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require a reboot after installation. Certified drivers are tested and digitally signed by Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before they install it on their system<A
 href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp"> Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's beginings.
 How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000 Professional? Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most reliable desktop operating system.
 Highest Reliability in Production Environments <A
 href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/reviews/nstl.asp">NSTL collected uptime data in the real-world environment of several customer sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures of

  Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of 
  Windows 98 and three times more than that of 
  Windows NT Workstation 4.0.

Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with socially unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers. Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows and Unix. ;o)
 Kevin Kostyszyn <kevin_at_dulcian.com> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE
 style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">

I
would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like Unix?

      <FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: root_at_fatcity.com 
      [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Rocky WelchSennt: 
      Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01 PMTo: Multiple recipients of 
      list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: OT NT2K vs 
      Unix.
      The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate 
      Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes more 
      like it with every release. 
      -Rocky 
        "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> wrote: 
      
      <BLOCKQUOTE 
      style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">
        
        Yea, but...... 
        Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict 
        that, in 5 years, there will be two or three 
        Unix vendors, fighting over the 45% of the 
        market that DataCenter hasn't eaten. 
        -----Original Message----- From: 
        Steve Orr [<A 
        href="mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com">mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com]]] 
        Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01 PM 
        To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
        Subject: RE: OT_RE:_Réf._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_ 
        
        Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old 
        DOS/Windows backward compatibility for 
        WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's 
        leadership. 
        I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS! 
        
        With apologies to Senator Bentsen, <FONT 
        size=2>Steve Orr 
        -----Original Message----- <FONT 
        size=2>stephane Sent: Thursday, February 01, 
        2001 9:22 AM&< To: Multiple recipients of 
        list ORACLE-L 
        NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if 
        my memory is good the guy's name is 
        Cutter. 
        Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot 
        ? 
        --- "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> a 
        écrit : > "...Standing,  corrected, 
        and sniggering....." > Odd picture, 
        that...... > <FONT 
        size=2>> > Anyways, pop quiz: 
        > > On what OS kernel 
        technology is NT based? > <FONT 
        size=2>> Who was the original designer and what was his/her 
        > first OS? > 
        > 
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