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RE: Killing pmon service - does Oracle backout?

From: Koivu, Lisa <lkoivu_at_qode.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:23:14 -0500
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Tony, could you not do a shutdown abort?

Killing pmon or smon is pretty much the equivalent of a shutdown abort (instance crash). 99.99% of the time the database will clean itself up when you bring it back up after a shutdown abort. Only once has a shutdown abort put one of my (production) databases into recovery mode.

Lisa Rutland Koivu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Barker, Tony [mailto:tbarker_at_doit.state.in.us] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:37 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Killing pmon service - does Oracle backout?

Hi!!,

        I recently hosed our test system and could not get into any utility applications (SQLPLUS, SVRMGRL, ..) and I needed to bring down some hung instances. (The system is Sun Solaris release 2.6 using Oracle 8.1.6) I ended up canceling the PMON task of the various instances to get them to come down. They all terminated and I was sure that I was going to have to do a recovery to get them to come back up. To my surprise all the instances came up fine after getting everything functionable.

        Does anyone know what happens when you cancel PMON that allowed this to happen? Did SMON clean things up before the instances terminated? I hope I don't have a false sense of comfort!?         

        Thanks in advance for your input!!!

Tony Barker
DBA - State of Indiana
tbarker_at_doit.state.in.us (317)232-0719

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tony, could you not do a shutdown abort?&nbsp; =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Killing pmon or smon is pretty much the equivalent of =
a shutdown abort (instance crash).&nbsp; 99.99% of the time the = database will clean itself up when you bring it back up after a = shutdown abort.&nbsp; Only once has a shutdown abort put one of my = (production) databases into recovery mode.&nbsp; </FONT></P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Lisa Rutland Koivu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Oracle Database Administrator</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Qode.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>4850 North State Road 7</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Suite G104</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Fort Lauderdale, FL&nbsp; 33319</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>V: 954.484.3191, x174</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>F: 954.484.2933 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>C: 954.658.5849</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://www.qode.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.qode.com</A></FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;The information contained herein does not =
express the opinion or position of Qode.com and cannot be attributed to = or made binding upon Qode.com.&quot;</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Barker, Tony [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:tbarker_at_doit.state.in.us">mailto:tbarker_at_doit.state.in.us=
</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:37 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Killing pmon service - does Oracle =
backout?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi!!,</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>I recently =
hosed our test system and could not get into any utility</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>applications (SQLPLUS, SVRMGRL, ..) and I needed to =
bring down some hung</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>instances. (The system is Sun Solaris release 2.6 =
using Oracle 8.1.6)&nbsp; I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ended up canceling the PMON task of the various =
instances to get them to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>come down.&nbsp; They all terminated and I was sure =
that I was going to have to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>do a recovery to get them to come back up.&nbsp; To =
my surprise all the instances</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>came up fine after getting everything =
functionable.</FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>Does =
anyone know what happens when you cancel PMON that allowed this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to happen?&nbsp; Did SMON clean things up before the =
instances terminated?&nbsp; I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>hope I don't have a false sense of comfort!?</FONT>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks in =
advance for your input!!!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tony Barker</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>DBA - State of Indiana</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>tbarker_at_doit.state.in.us&nbsp; (317)232-0719</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: Barker, Tony</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: tbarker_at_doit.state.in.us</FONT>
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