RE: shutdown immediate

From: Satar Naghshineh <Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:55:25 -0800
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Why? are you doing a backup? "Shutdown abort" will do just fine. Then in your spare time, try to find out what was causing the database to hang while issuing the "shutdown immediate" command.

Regards,
Satar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: GKor_at_rdw.nl [SMTP:GKor_at_rdw.nl]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:22 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: shutdown immediate
>
> i think the method to use is
>
> shutdown abort
> startup restrict
> shutdown
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Weerd Kirsten, E.C. de [SMTP:Kirsten.deWeerd_at_oranjewoud.nl]
> > Verzonden: 6-dec-00 11:36
> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Onderwerp: RE: shutdown immediate
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I don't agree ...
> > If a shutdown immediate won't work, there is no point in trying a normal
> > shutdown ... The only solution left if you really want to DB brought
> down,
> > is a shutdown abort ...
> >
> > Greets,
> >
> > Kirsten
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > why not try the command "shutdown", that is better than an abort.
> > > I know it doesn't answer your question, but before you start trying
> > > shutdown
> > > abort....
> > > The shutdown command will terminate the processes properly, not like
> > > shutdown abort.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Clint
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would definately check if one (or more) of Oracle's background
> > > processes is eating away CPU on the machine. As Satar Naghshineh
> > > suggested,
> > > Oracle is probably performing rollback or whatever ...
> > >
> > > Bare in mind though, a shutdown abort will bring the DB down, but
> > > after starting it, the background process will probably start
> > recovering.
> > > No
> > > tellin ghow long that will take. No real problem though, other users
> can
> > > just go to work, it might cause some performance-loss tho ...
> > >
> > > Greets,
> > >
> > > Kirsten
> > >
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Why? are you doing a = backup?  "Shutdown abort" will do just fine. Then in = your spare time, try to find out what was causing the database to hang = while issuing the "shutdown immediate" command.

Regards, Satar

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =

SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">GKor_at_rdw.nl [SMTP:GKor_at_rdw.nl] Sent:   Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:22 AM To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:       = RE: shutdown immediate

i think the method to use is

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">shutdown abort</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">startup restrict</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">shutdown</FONT>
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> -----Oorspronkelijk = bericht-----
 > Van:  Weerd Kirsten, E.C. = de [SMTP:Kirsten.deWeerd_at_oranjewoud.nl] > Verzonden:    = 6-dec-00 11:36
 > Aan:  Multiple recipients = of list ORACLE-L
 > Onderwerp:    RE: = shutdown immediate
 > > I'm sorry, but I don't agree = ...
 > If a shutdown immediate won't = work, there is no point in trying a normal > shutdown ... The only solution = left if you really want to DB brought down,

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; is a shutdown abort ...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Greets,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Kirsten</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; -----Original =

Message-----

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Hi.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; why not try the command =

"shutdown", that is better than an abort. > > I know it doesn't answer = your question, but before you start trying

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; shutdown</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; abort....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; The shutdown command will =

terminate the processes properly, not like

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; shutdown abort.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Thanks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Clint</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; -----Original =

Message-----

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Hi,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I would =

definately check if one (or more) of Oracle's background > > processes is eating away = CPU on the machine. As Satar Naghshineh > > suggested, > > Oracle is probably = performing rollback or whatever ... > > > >     Bare in = mind though, a shutdown abort will bring the DB down, but > > after starting it, the = background process will probably start

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; recovering.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; No</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; tellin ghow long that will =

take. No real problem though, other users can > > just go to work, it might = cause some performance-loss tho ... > > > >     = Greets,

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; Kirsten</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Please see the official ORACLE-L =

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