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RE: Max datafilesze in ORACLE8i

From: Seth Dunehew <sdunehew_at_medicalmatrix.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:12:23 -0500
Message-Id: <10616.116632@fatcity.com>


If your running on NT, I would say that 2Gig needs to be the practical limit. We had horrible problems that took a couple of frustrating days to pinpoint. We were using 8.1.5 on NT, and one of the datafiles was growing out to around 6Gig when the database was created and populated. The database would crash when it came back up, the 6Gig file would now only be approx 102Mb and Oracle would still be looking for something a little bigger. It turned out to be a limit on NT and the way it stored file sizes, and the interaction of Oracle and NT.  

We don't use datafiles over 2Gig on any of our platforms and it seems to have solved all of the problems. I have been told that 4Gig works just fine on NT, but after the couple of days spent on the phone with Oracle, pushing it doesn't seem worth it.  

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From: Allan Nelson [mailto:anelson_at_houston.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 4:17 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Max datafilesze in ORACLE8i

This usually depends on the OS rather than Oracle.  

Allan

Hi List,
I am not sure whether this question is put or not in the list. Is there any limit oracle imposes on the size of a datafile.Somebody said it is 2GB.
Can any one of you tell me the max datafile size possible and also the oracle recommended size.It is for Oracle 8.1.5.

Thanx
Uma Shankar



From: Davide Bellesi[SMTP:davide.bellesi_at_visto.com] Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:05 AM
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Subject:        Re: ORA-4031 

	Hi, (.. i want to apologize for my BAD english) 
  have you cheked the fragmentation of your shared pool ?? Are there hundreds of concurrent users not using bind variables ??

        :)

        I think you've already checked that, so :

        I faced with this kind of error during a bulk insert on a datawarehouse (Oracle 8.1.5, HP-UX )

        My "little" INSERT used 300M in the shared pool. After doubling the shared pool, my 'little' INSERT used 600 M.

        It seemed to be a BUG ..... maybe platform specific

        I can ask to Oracle if this fits you requests

        Hope this helps
Davide

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Sent: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 06:34:38 -0800 To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

        We had a similar error but it was ORA-04030 that pointed to system memory
being exhausted.
I am assuming you are on a UNIX OS and that you are running perl there. On NT it is much trickier to pinpoint a problem. I don't know of any accurate memory diagnostic tools out there for NT

        I went looking at the ulimit for the user on AIX 4.3.3.0 platform The systems admin and I upped the ulimit from 256M for data soft limit to 512M for the hard limit which the soft limit can be raised to That took care of the immediate need.

        Then went to explain plan the code. There was the key. Besides trying to
take an average on the start and stop date(s), and having 6 million rows for the major table being joined there were several small coding tricks they didn't take advantage of at the start. Once we sent the code through explain plan and saw how much nesting, full table scans, and such we then started to tune their code.

        My suggestion is to do both memory tuning of the system file on UNIX and
checking of the code.
For the system file (if you have one.. on Solaris and HP-UX there is one) Make sure shmmax and other shared memory segment parameters are tuned for the system.
I heard that Toad is a good tool to use for the database (tuning and maintenance and such)
I am aiming to give it a whirl in the next few weeks. Further aside...
I tried getting SQL Station to work but it is a) intrusive with requiring you to create some sort of repository in the target database b) not user install friendly

        Good luck.

             Heidi         

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	Hi friends, 

  I have a perl script that load file content into a table, since this morning I am facing with the following error:

        FATAL ERROR: (DBD::Oracle::db do failed: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 52 bytes of shared memory ("shared pool","insert into grille values ('...","sql area","strdef : prsstr") (DBD ERROR: OCIStmtExecute) at infinit.pm line 123, <FILE> chunk 1. )

        I have increased the shared_pool-size and parameter in init.ora and I still running the same problem. I don't know what I can do else ;)

        This is fragment from my init.ora:

shared_pool_size = 36000000 
shared_pool_reserved_size = 160000000 
shared_pool_reserved_min_alloc = 8000000 
sort_area_size = 2000000

        Thank you for your help in advance,

        Kader



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