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OFF-TOPIC RE: opinion needed: when sqlserver & not Oracle

From: Boivin, Patrice J <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:51:13 -0300
Message-Id: <10598.115392@fatcity.com>


Re. SQL Server being easy to administer, I wish the SQL Server 7 Administration exam was just as easy.

: )

Patrice Boivin
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-----Original Message-----

	From:	Smith, Ron L. [SMTP:rlsmith_at_kmg.com]
	Sent:	Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:22 PM
	To:	Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
	Subject:	RE: opinion needed: when sqlserver & not Oracle

	We have both Oracle and SQL Server, (as well as DB2 and Adabas).
SQL Server
	is usually selected for small applications with a dozen or fewer
users.
	These are vendor apps which also determine which server the software
goes
	on.  We let the vendor choose because we want the project to
succeed.  Many
	vendors say they support Oracle but when it comes time to install
the
	software it is obvious they have little or no experience with
Oracle.  If
	there is going to be little or no IT staff I would definitely choose
SQL
	Server.  Any PC literate person can stumble through maintaining SQL
Server.
	They may not choose the fastest or best way but they will get it
going.  SQL
	Server can be ignored for an extended period of time and will
usually keep
	running.  That same PC person would have a tough time supporting
Oracle with
	no training.  Oracle is too complex and the documentation assumes
you know
	what you are doing.

	Ron Smith
	Database Administration
	rlsmith_at_kmg.com



-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:32 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't see how SQLServer is as complex to manage as Oracle when it doesn't even have things like: Parallel Server, Bitmap Indexes plus tons of other missing things. And SQLServer automatically manages memory(SGA). I can go on and on but these are the few examples. Richard Ji
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Dijken Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My $0.02 : Sqlserver is just as complex to manage as is Oracle. You face the same problems with tablespaces, performance issus, backup strategies, etc. The management tools for Oracle however (either by Oracle or 3rd party suppliers) are superior to the management tools for Sqlserver. Don't forget, you also need a system manager to handle NT on the local sites as well. Having a system manager local, you can manage your databases around the world. Be prepared to work 24 hours a day though. :o) Paul
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 22 August 2000 23:12 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, I don't want to start any holy war. I can just see the hackles rising over this one already.... I would just like an opinion on the following scenerio: An application was developed without consulting anyone who might have to actually support it (that's a whole OTHER topic). It includes having a database on an NT server at various remote sites around the world where local IT staff will be "minimal" or even non-existent. To make matters worse, I don't have any information about expected transaction volume or projected database size. I realize that I can do a fair amount of monitoring / administration remotely but, to be truthful, I'm not too crazy about supporting remote databases...especially if they are on NT instead
of UNIX.

        My question is this: at what point (txn volume / db size) would it be

        reasonable to push this back to sqlserver over Oracle? Or am I just being

        lazy? The assumption by management is that less well trained people could

        manage sqlserver and support problems would not come to me (ha ha).

	Humbly,
	Kip Bryant

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