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Re:RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL..

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:38:13 -0400
Message-Id: <10593.114948@fatcity.com>


Lisa,

    Over the past 4 years we interviewed many a person who claimed, at le= ast on
their resume, to be "Oracle experts". Some of it is recruiters who re-wr= ite
resumes for potential candidates in an effort to get that finder's fee (I= 've had
that happen to me from a recruiter I never contacted in the first place. =  He
downloaded my resume from ORACLEDBA.NET & if you can run Oracle, you "mus= t" be a
SQL*Server guru as well, right??). Some of it is candidates who assume t= oo much
& want the job too badly, and getting an OCP certificate just because you=  can
pass the tests makes it worse.

Scary, you bet.

Dick Goulet

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Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.. Author: =3D?iso-8859-1?q?paquette=3D20stephane?=3D <stephane_paquette_at_yah= oo.com>
Date: 8/18/00 12:55 AM

We had a new developper 2 months ago, the project leader never does technical interview. The guy was talking about himself as very strong with developper 2000 and pl/sql. He lasts 2.5 days ... =

> It's amazing how many people I've interviewed in the
> last month that claim
> 'expert' or 'advanced' skills and yet can't answer
> the simplest questions
> about PL/SQL. Wow. And the scary part is those
> people could still be hired
> as junior developers. WOW.... I could NEVER lie on
> my resume like that and
> oversell myself into a job. I'm not a good liar. =

> I had no idea that
> resume fudging was so RAMPANT.
> =

> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:18 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> =

> =

> It's funny how people can claim so many years of
> experience that don't quite
> add up. We have a guy here who claims to have over
> 10 years of software
> development experience (involving Oracle) and
> flaunts it. He's barely past
> 30 and graduated from college with an accounting
> degree and worked as an
> accountant for 6 years after that. At most he
> probably has half that. You
> figure it out for yourself.
> =

> -----Original Message-----
> Kirti
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:01 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> =

> =

> LOL...
> In my previous job our Damagement hired a guy as my
> boss (in later part of
> 1995) who claimed to have had worked in UNIX and
> Oracle environment for over
> 22 years...
> He was subsequently fired in Jan 1996.. I still
> wonder why ;-)
> =

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Dailey
> [SMTP:John.Dailey_at_concept-solutions.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:37 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft.
> Lauderdale, FL..
> >
> > I saw an ad last year for someone looking for a
> Peoplesoft developer with
> > 12 years experience... Peoplesoft has only existed
> since 1987, and only
> > had
> > about 20 employees or so. Were they looking for
> one of the original 20?
> > =3D) I would imagine those folks don't need to
> look at the want ads
> > much....
> >
> > John Dailey, MCSE/MCP+I
> > Consultant
> > Concept Solutions, LLC
> > Phone: 703-855-8832
> >
> > Concept Solutions, LLC
> > *Your Business Intelligence Partner*
> > www.concept-solutions.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:16 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Make it 90k GBP and it might be interesting.
> >
> > I would be interested in knowing who set 8 years
> as the minimum and what
> > relevance a BS has after [at least] 8 years
> competency as a DBA.
> >
> > Phil West
> > Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA
> > +44 (0) 20 7623 5222 x5221
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 16 August 2000 16:19
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > *Description:
> > Major Ft. Lauderdale, Florida company needs an
> Oracle DBA for their I.T.
> > team
> > to provide database support for Oracle systems .
> > This is a full time staff position.
> > Candidates local to the South Florida area are
> strongly preferred.
> >
> > *Requirements:
> >
> > * BS in Computer Science or related degree.
> > * 8+ yrs experience in Oracle administration. (
> 8yrs is the minimum)
> > * Unix experience desired.
> > * U.S. citizenship or permanent residency.
> >
> > These positions offer:
> > * Stability
> > * The opportunity to become a key member of the
> team.
> > * Base Salary of up to 90K+-D.O.E.
> >
> > NO sub contracting positions available.
> >
> > Please do not send your resume if you are not in
> the United States.
> >
> > For immediate consideration, please email your
> resume as an attachment
> > to:
> > Bill Law,
> > Oracle Placement Specialist
> > OraStaff, Inc.
> > Email: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
> > Phone: 1-800-549-8502.
> > Please Use Job Code: Ft Lauder/DBA/D.Grant/one
> >
> > Note: This is only one of the many opportunities
> that we have available
> > across the U.S.
> > for candidates with Oracle skills. So if this one
> is not a match for you,
> > we
> > invite you
> > to send us your resume- as we quite possibly have
> the opportunity that you
> > are seeking.
> >
> > We pay referral fees.
> > So please contact me if you know of anyone who
> would be
> > qualified/interested
> > in the
> > posiition described above- if it is not a match
> for you.
> > Thanks,
> > Bill Law
> >
> >
> > --
> > Author: OraStaff
> > INET: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
> >
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