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I am a newbie to Oracle, I have memories only back to 7.3.3 - but, I have
enjoyed and I'm learning a lot from all of you. But I do have a question, and
be nice ;-> where is Scott now?
Kathe
John Dailey wrote:
> <RANT>
> I'll go to my grave insisting that it's not the years of experience that
> count the most (though it is important), but what you do during that time
> that matters. I've worked with people w/ 2 years experience who knew FAR
> more than some with 5-10 simply because they took full advantage of their
> opportunities and truly LEARNED. Certainly not applicable to everyone I
> know, but I feel you have to look at more than just "x # years of
> experience".
>
> Simply counting years doth not a good DBA (or anything else for that matter)
> make....
> </RANT>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Kirkpatrick
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 6:47 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Doesn't apply if you get in from a buddy who is good friends with the hiring
> manager and trusts the buddy's judgement ...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Srini.Chavali_at_Cummins.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 3:49 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Most lies - er, fudges !! - can easily be ferreted out simply by asking the
> right questions during a technical interview and requesting references from
> previous employers. Some candidates I have interviewed put "performed
> database tuning on various databases" - or words to that effect - in their
> resumes, but were unable to elaborate or provide specific details when
> pressed for more information, sure sign of garnishing !! Not providing
> references from previous employers is the quickest way to *not* get a DBA
> job around here !
> Srini Chavali
> Cummins Inc
>
> "Koivu, Lisa" <lkoivu_at_qode.com> on 08/17/2000 04:18:45 PM
>
> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc: (bcc: Srini Chavali/Corp/Cummins)
>
> It's amazing how many people I've interviewed in the last month that claim
> 'expert' or 'advanced' skills and yet can't answer the simplest questions
> about PL/SQL. Wow. And the scary part is those people could still be
> hired
> as junior developers. WOW.... I could NEVER lie on my resume like that
> and
> oversell myself into a job. I'm not a good liar. I had no idea that
> resume fudging was so RAMPANT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:18 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> It's funny how people can claim so many years of experience that don't
> quite
> add up. We have a guy here who claims to have over 10 years of software
> development experience (involving Oracle) and flaunts it. He's barely past
> 30 and graduated from college with an accounting degree and worked as an
> accountant for 6 years after that. At most he probably has half that. You
> figure it out for yourself.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Kirti
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:01 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> LOL...
> In my previous job our Damagement hired a guy as my boss (in later part of
> 1995) who claimed to have had worked in UNIX and Oracle environment for
> over
> 22 years...
> He was subsequently fired in Jan 1996.. I still wonder why ;-)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Dailey [SMTP:John.Dailey_at_concept-solutions.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:37 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL..
> >
> > I saw an ad last year for someone looking for a Peoplesoft developer
> with
> > 12 years experience... Peoplesoft has only existed since 1987, and only
> > had
> > about 20 employees or so. Were they looking for one of the original 20?
> > =) I would imagine those folks don't need to look at the want ads
> > much....
> >
> > John Dailey, MCSE/MCP+I
> > Consultant
> > Concept Solutions, LLC
> > Phone: 703-855-8832
> >
> > Concept Solutions, LLC
> > *Your Business Intelligence Partner*
> > www.concept-solutions.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:16 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Make it 90k GBP and it might be interesting.
> >
> > I would be interested in knowing who set 8 years as the minimum and what
> > relevance a BS has after [at least] 8 years competency as a DBA.
> >
> > Phil West
> > Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA
> > +44 (0) 20 7623 5222 x5221
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 16 August 2000 16:19
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > *Description:
> > Major Ft. Lauderdale, Florida company needs an Oracle DBA for their I.T.
> > team
> > to provide database support for Oracle systems .
> > This is a full time staff position.
> > Candidates local to the South Florida area are strongly preferred.
> >
> > *Requirements:
> >
> > * BS in Computer Science or related degree.
> > * 8+ yrs experience in Oracle administration. ( 8yrs is the minimum)
> > * Unix experience desired.
> > * U.S. citizenship or permanent residency.
> >
> > These positions offer:
> > * Stability
> > * The opportunity to become a key member of the team.
> > * Base Salary of up to 90K+-D.O.E.
> >
> > NO sub contracting positions available.
> >
> > Please do not send your resume if you are not in the United States.
> >
> > For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment
> > to:
> > Bill Law,
> > Oracle Placement Specialist
> > OraStaff, Inc.
> > Email: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
> > Phone: 1-800-549-8502.
> > Please Use Job Code: Ft Lauder/DBA/D.Grant/one
> >
> > Note: This is only one of the many opportunities that we have available
> > across the U.S.
> > for candidates with Oracle skills. So if this one is not a match for you,
> > we
> > invite you
> > to send us your resume- as we quite possibly have the opportunity that
> you
> > are seeking.
> >
> > We pay referral fees.
> > So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
> > qualified/interested
> > in the
> > posiition described above- if it is not a match for you.
> > Thanks,
> > Bill Law
> >
> >
> > --
> > Author: OraStaff
> > INET: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
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