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Most lies - er, fudges !! - can easily be ferreted out simply by asking the
right questions during a technical interview and requesting references from
previous employers. Some candidates I have interviewed put "performed
database tuning on various databases" - or words to that effect - in their
resumes, but were unable to elaborate or provide specific details when
pressed for more information, sure sign of garnishing !! Not providing
references from previous employers is the quickest way to *not* get a DBA
job around here !
Srini Chavali
Cummins Inc
"Koivu, Lisa" <lkoivu_at_qode.com> on 08/17/2000 04:18:45 PM
Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> cc: (bcc: Srini Chavali/Corp/Cummins) Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL..
It's amazing how many people I've interviewed in the last month that claim
'expert' or 'advanced' skills and yet can't answer the simplest questions
about PL/SQL. Wow. And the scary part is those people could still be
hired
as junior developers. WOW.... I could NEVER lie on my resume like that
and
oversell myself into a job. I'm not a good liar. I had no idea that
resume fudging was so RAMPANT.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:18 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
It's funny how people can claim so many years of experience that don't
quite
add up. We have a guy here who claims to have over 10 years of software
development experience (involving Oracle) and flaunts it. He's barely past
30 and graduated from college with an accounting degree and worked as an
accountant for 6 years after that. At most he probably has half that. You
figure it out for yourself.
-----Original Message-----
Kirti
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
LOL...
In my previous job our Damagement hired a guy as my boss (in later part of
1995) who claimed to have had worked in UNIX and Oracle environment for
over
22 years...
He was subsequently fired in Jan 1996.. I still wonder why ;-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Dailey [SMTP:John.Dailey_at_concept-solutions.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:37 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL..
>
> I saw an ad last year for someone looking for a Peoplesoft developer
with
> 12 years experience... Peoplesoft has only existed since 1987, and only
> had
> about 20 employees or so. Were they looking for one of the original 20?
> =) I would imagine those folks don't need to look at the want ads
> much....
>
> John Dailey, MCSE/MCP+I
> Consultant
> Concept Solutions, LLC
> Phone: 703-855-8832
>
> Concept Solutions, LLC
> *Your Business Intelligence Partner*
> www.concept-solutions.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:16 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Make it 90k GBP and it might be interesting.
>
> I would be interested in knowing who set 8 years as the minimum and what
> relevance a BS has after [at least] 8 years competency as a DBA.
>
> Phil West
> Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA
> +44 (0) 20 7623 5222 x5221
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 16 August 2000 16:19
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> *Description:
> Major Ft. Lauderdale, Florida company needs an Oracle DBA for their I.T.
> team
> to provide database support for Oracle systems .
> This is a full time staff position.
> Candidates local to the South Florida area are strongly preferred.
>
> *Requirements:
>
> * BS in Computer Science or related degree.
> * 8+ yrs experience in Oracle administration. ( 8yrs is the minimum)
> * Unix experience desired.
> * U.S. citizenship or permanent residency.
>
> These positions offer:
> * Stability
> * The opportunity to become a key member of the team.
> * Base Salary of up to 90K+-D.O.E.
>
> NO sub contracting positions available.
>
> Please do not send your resume if you are not in the United States.
>
> For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment
> to:
> Bill Law,
> Oracle Placement Specialist
> OraStaff, Inc.
> Email: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
> Phone: 1-800-549-8502.
> Please Use Job Code: Ft Lauder/DBA/D.Grant/one
>
> Note: This is only one of the many opportunities that we have available
> across the U.S.
> for candidates with Oracle skills. So if this one is not a match for you,
> we
> invite you
> to send us your resume- as we quite possibly have the opportunity that
you
> are seeking.
>
> We pay referral fees.
> So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
> qualified/interested
> in the
> posiition described above- if it is not a match for you.
> Thanks,
> Bill Law
>
>
> --
> Author: OraStaff
> INET: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
>
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I had no idea that resume fudging was so RAMPANT.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Randy Kirkpatrick [<A HREF="mailto:randyk_at_messagemedia.com">mailto:randyk_at_messagemedia.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:18 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL..</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>It's funny how people can claim so many years of experience that don't quite</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>add up. We have a guy here who claims to have over 10 years of software</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>development experience (involving Oracle) and flaunts it. He's barely past</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>30 and graduated from college with an accounting degree and worked as an</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>accountant for 6 years after that. At most he probably has half that. You</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>figure it out for yourself.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Kirti</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:01 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>LOL...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>In my previous job our Damagement hired a guy as my boss (in later part of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>1995) who claimed to have had worked in UNIX and Oracle environment for over</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>22 years...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>He was subsequently fired in Jan 1996.. I still wonder why ;-)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: John Dailey [SMTP:John.Dailey_at_concept-solutions.com]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:37 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL..</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I saw an ad last year for someone looking for a Peoplesoft developer with</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> 12 years experience... Peoplesoft has only existed since 1987, and only</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> had</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> about 20 employees or so. Were they looking for one of the original 20?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> =) I would imagine those folks don't need to look at the want ads</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> much....</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> John Dailey, MCSE/MCP+I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Consultant</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Concept Solutions, LLC</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Phone: 703-855-8832</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Concept Solutions, LLC</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> *Your Business Intelligence Partner*</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> www.concept-solutions.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:16 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Make it 90k GBP and it might be interesting.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I would be interested in knowing who set 8 years as the minimum and what</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> relevance a BS has after [at least] 8 years competency as a DBA.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Phil West</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> +44 (0) 20 7623 5222 x5221</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: 16 August 2000 16:19</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> *Description:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Major Ft. Lauderdale, Florida company needs an Oracle DBA for their I.T.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> team</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to provide database support for Oracle systems .</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> This is a full time staff position.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Candidates local to the South Florida area are strongly preferred.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> *Requirements:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * BS in Computer Science or related degree.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * 8+ yrs experience in Oracle administration. ( 8yrs is the minimum)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * Unix experience desired.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * U.S. citizenship or permanent residency.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> These positions offer:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * Stability</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * The opportunity to become a key member of the team.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * Base Salary of up to 90K+-D.O.E.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> NO sub contracting positions available.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Please do not send your resume if you are not in the United States.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill Law,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Oracle Placement Specialist</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> OraStaff, Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Email: orastaff_at_mindspring.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Phone: 1-800-549-8502.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Please Use Job Code: Ft Lauder/DBA/D.Grant/one</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Note: This is only one of the many opportunities that we have available</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> across the U.S.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> for candidates with Oracle skills. So if this one is not a match for you,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> we</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> invite you</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to send us your resume- as we quite possibly have the opportunity that you</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> are seeking.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> We pay referral fees.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> qualified/interested</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> in the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> posiition described above- if it is not a match for you.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Thanks,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill Law</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Author: OraStaff</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> INET: orastaff_at_mindspring.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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