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RE: KEEP creep

From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:07:40 -0400
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Could you elaborate a little bit please - what is CR locks, when they happen and what consequences of using this parameter.

Alex Hillman

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Adams [mailto:steve.adams_at_ixora.com.au] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 7:34 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: KEEP creep

Hi Mark,

There is no such timeout. What you are seeing is the effect of CR mode blocks.
You should be able to work around this by setting _db_aging_freeze_cr = TRUE. Regards,
Steve Adams

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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2000 19:33
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I am trying to size objects for the KEEP pool on 8.1.6. An analyze shows 108,000 blocks for a table, yet it fills the KEEP buffer pool,
which is 120,000 blocks.
The extra 12,000 blocks are copies of buffers not found within a time limit
when searching the hash chains (or so I believe). There are no other objects in
the KEEP pool.
I have tried maximum and minimum numbers of db_block_lru_latches with little
effect. I have not modified the _db_block_hash_buckets. I would prefer if it searched the buffer cache for longer for the required
buffers (because I know the whole table is cached), even if this means that it
runs a little slower. As with OLTP systems, constant performance is better.
Anyone know what to change to extend the buffer cache search timeout?

Regards
Mark

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