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RE: Help needed: OCP exam_cram book questons

From: Ron Rogers <RROGERS_at_galottery.org>
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:45:08 -0400
Message-Id: <10578.113713@fatcity.com>


Not wanting to start a LOOOONG thread again but I had to add a buck or two = to the pot.
NOTHING beats experience.period. I am sure that there are a lot of DBA's = doing a fantastic job and saving thier company a lot of time and money = that do NOT have thier OCP yet. I applaud them for thier ability and = perserverence, but working the job and taking the test are two different = things. Knowing how to do and what to do may not be the answer they are = looking for when they word the test. The MOST CORRECT answer from the = choices given may not bet the real world CORRECT answer. Of those of use = that have taken the test, How many of the answers would have been "MORE = CORRECT" if they had supplied the real world answer as a chioce?=20 Keep in mind that the questions and answers are not platform specific. Yea = Right!. If all of your experience in on one platform "and you are good at = what you do" you may have difficulties answering some of the questions. = That is one of the reasons to inhance your knowledge with the CRAMS,etc = before you take the tests.
As an example: The test questions ask about Oracle products that can be = purchased to make the DBA interface a GUI rather than command line. They = do not work on all platforms and are very costly. With out the books to = learn from I would have been quessing at the answers. I now have the = knowledge and the resources to use the products in the future at another = work location.
"As he steps down off the soap box, goodday,goodnight,goodluck" Ron Rogers
DBA OCP
Atl.GA

>>> cgrabowy_at_fcg.com 08/02/00 07:27PM >>>
So whatever happend to actually learning this stuff versus cramming for a test...

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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 4:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Hi!

Oops u mean I should not have 'thrown out' those cram books? ie cram is good for clearing OCP?

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: July 31, 2000 10:05:48 AM GMT

you study the cram exam books or take the tests or guess right

>From: Cyril Thankappan <cyril_thank_at_india.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com=20
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: Help needed: OCP exam_cram book questons
>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:45:04 -0800
>
>Hi!
>
>Thanks Rachel for the 'insight'..
>
>But can u help me!
>
>Where can I get the 'scoring answers' (answers which
>will get me marks!)
>
>Thanks
>
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>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Sent: July 31, 2000 3:04:00 AM GMT
>
>
>The problem is, you can't necessarily understand the correct answer.
>Because
>the "correct" answer is not always the one that is really right.
>
>Oracle has decided that these are the answers. So they are the correct
>ones,
>even if you think they are wrong.
>
>I have a friend who finally managed to pass the Performance Tuning exam =
by
>answering questions deliberately wrong -- because she knew that the =
"wrong"
>answer was the one Oracle wanted on the exam.
>
> >From: "Guang Mei" <zlmei_at_hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com=20
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: Help needed: OCP exam_cram book questons
> >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:24:44 -0800
> >
> >Hi:
> >
> >I was reading the OCP review book "EXAM_CRAM" (author: Michael Ault) =
and
> >have a few questions about the sample test questions. I would like to
>know
> >the "coorect" answer and understand why.
> >
> >Here it goes:
> >
> >-------------------
> >Question 27:
> >
> >You query the database with this command:
> >
> >SELECT
> >CONCAT(LOWER(SUBSTR(description,10)),
> >LENGTH(product_name)) "Product ID"
> >FROM inventory;
> >
> >Which function is evaluate second?
> >a CONCAT()
> >b. LOWER()
> >c. SUBSTR()
> >
> >According to the book:
> >The correct answer is c. Answer a is incorrect because CONCAT() is
>outside
> >of the parantheses. Answer b is incorrect because LOWER() is not inside
>the
> >innermost parentheses.
> >
> >
> >I thought the answer should be b. Why am I wrong here?
> >
> >-------------------
> >Question 39:
> >
> >What is the purpose of the PL/SQL FETCH command?
> >
> >a. To define a cursor to be used later
> >b. To retrieve values from the active set into local variables
> >c. To call the rows identified by a cursor query into the active set
> >d. To relase the memory used by the cursor
> >
> >According to the book:
> >The correct answer is c. The fETCH command retrieve values returned by
>the
> >cursor into the active set. Answer a is incorrect because this =
statement
>is
> >the function of the CURSOR command. Answer b is incorrect because this =
is
> >the function of OPEN command. Answer d is incorrect because this is the
> >function of the CLOSE command.
> >
> >I thought the answer should be b. Again, why am I wrong here?
> >
> >-------------------
> >Question 34:
> >
> >Which Procedure Builder component would you use to edit the properties =
of
> >your database objects?
> >
> >a. Stored Program Unit Editor
> >b. Program Unit Editor
> >c. PL/SQL Interpreter
> >d. Object navigator
> >
> >
> >My question (to all people who took OCP PL/SQL exam recently) is: Does
> >exam
> >cover specific oracle tool such as "Procedure Builder" or "OEM"? It
>seems
> >that PL/SQL should not test any specfic tools , especially tools that =
are
> >not widely used. Rather it should test the knowledge of PL/SQL.
> >
> >-----------------
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Guang
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