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RE: Would you allow this?

From: Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:39:26 GMT
Message-Id: <10528.109342@fatcity.com>


The corollary to this is, of course, that if no user is in your database, you get great performance :)

>From: "Miller, Jay" <JayMiller_at_tdwaterhouse.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Would you allow this?
>Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:36:27 -0800
>
>Wow, you're trusting. My philosophy is: If the database isn't mounted, it
>isn't going to crash.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:07 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>He's right !
>You should NEVER allow ANYONE to connect to a production database !!
>Production databases should ALWAYS be opened in RESTRICTED MODE !!!
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Rocky Welch[SMTP:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com]
> > Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 16:25
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Would you allow this?
> >
> > Lisa,
> > NO WAY UNDER ANY SITUATION!
> >
> > That's my opinion.
> >
> > --- Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Lisa,
> > >
> > > Get it in writing that you are objecting to doing this and that they
>are
> > >
> > > insisting it be done this way.
> > >
> > > Not that it will stop the problems, but at least you can push the
>blame
> > > back
> > > on the ones who deserve it when it "all falls down"... and it will.
>And
> > > they
> > > will come after you for it.
> > >
> > > Rachel
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Steve Orr" <sorr_at_arzoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: Would you allow this?
> > > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:21:32 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Lisa,
> > > > > I am concerned about it starting runaway queries and eating up
> > > resources
> > > >
> > > >Definitely could create a headache. If you don't have a choice in the
> > > >matter
> > > >then create a profile/user account just for them, set
> > > resource_limit=true
> > > >and setup some reasonable CPU limits, etc. If they bump up against
>the
> > > >limits then you can ask, "What's wrong with your software that it
> > > consumes
> > > >so much resource?"
> > > >
> > > >Then take two aspirin and call us in the morning.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Steve Orr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Beilstein
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:46 AM
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Lisa,
> > > >Your employer sounds like a complete moron. If I was you, I would
>start
> > > >looking for another job. One of these days (maybe now), the database
>is
> > > >going to be hosed and YOU will get the blame for it happening.
> > > >
> > > > >>> "Allin, Sean" <sallin_at_trimarine-usa.com> 06/13/00 01:32PM >>>
> > > >heartfelt sympathies
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:55 AM
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >How many of you would allow a vendor to come in and do a demo on a
> > > >PRODUCTION
> > > >DATABASE?
> > > >
> > > >I am being overridden. I am being told to allow it, it's their
> > > database
> > > >and
> > > >if
> > > >they hose it (who knows what this thing is going to do?) it's their
> > > >problem.
> > > >What? It's just a reporting tool, but STILL! I am concerned about
>it
> > > >starting
> > > >runaway queries and eating up resources reserved for CUSTOMERS.
> > > >
> > > >Can you feel my headache all the way from Minneapolis.... I should
> > > just
> > > >take
> > > >the afternoon off.
> > > >Lisa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Author:
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> > > >
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> > > Author: Rachel Carmichael
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> >
> > =====
> > Rocky Welch
> > Oracle DBA Consultant
> >
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> >
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