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Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #258850]

Mon, 13 August 2007 11:55

toshidas2000
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I have a 2 node cluster. We have around 25GB of undo on both nodes. We always get SNAPSHOT too old. The first node undo tablespace always run out of sapce. Currently it is 35 GB.
Does select statements uses undo tablespace??

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #258858 is a reply to message #258850]

Mon, 13 August 2007 12:04

DreamzZ
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No.But if table is lock or some DMLs are going on UNDO tablespace then in that case select goes to undo tablespace to retrive consistent copy of the query .

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Every Oracle Database must have a method of maintaining information that is used to roll back, or undo, changes to the database. Such information consists of records of the actions of transactions, primarily before they are committed. These records are collectively referred to as undo.

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B12037_01/server.101/b10739/undo.htm
Take a look for TUNING OPTIONS.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/05-jul/o45tuning.html

[Updated on: Mon, 13 August 2007 12:07]

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #258859 is a reply to message #258858]

Mon, 13 August 2007 12:06

toshidas2000
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If we shutdown the instance and bring it back, the undo should be 0% use, still it is 100% use and that is 35GB.

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #258860 is a reply to message #258859]

Mon, 13 August 2007 12:07

DreamzZ
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Whats the UNDO_RETENTION value?

And did you create 2 UNDOS for 2 nodes.

[Updated on: Mon, 13 August 2007 12:08]

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #258863 is a reply to message #258860]

Mon, 13 August 2007 12:10

toshidas2000
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34 hours and we do have seperate undo for both instance. First Instance undo panics..

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #258867 is a reply to message #258863]

Mon, 13 August 2007 12:24

DreamzZ
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whats your ORACLE version post 4 decimals.

Try to switch the tablespaces between the nodes and then try your NODE1.

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #258874 is a reply to message #258867]

Mon, 13 August 2007 12:32

toshidas2000
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oracle version is 9.2.0.7.0 and how do I switch?? The undotablespace is mentioned in init.ora file

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #259939 is a reply to message #258874]

Thu, 16 August 2007 21:38

ebrian
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You should ensure that both instances are using automatic UNDO management. If you want to shrink your UNDO tablespace, you can perform the following:

create a new UNDO tablespace
switch the database to use the new UNDO tablespace (ALTER SYSTEM SET UNDO_TABLESPACE = undotbs_02;)
drop the old UNDO tablespace

You can drop the UNDO tablespace as long as there aren't any active transaction using the UNDO tablespace.

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #264716 is a reply to message #258850]

Tue, 04 September 2007 05:18

the_who
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Registered: December 2006
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recreate new undo tablespace is the best thing you can do
because with new undo tablespace your problem with undo size
has finish...but..
i think with recreate undo tablespace you can't do flashback if one time you want your old data
all old historical saved in undo tablespace unless you have backup system....

is all i'm say true?
sory i'm beginner with this Smile

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Re: Undo Tablespace in RAC [message #264744 is a reply to message #264716]

Tue, 04 September 2007 07:20

Michel Cadot
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If you have a question, create a new topic don't use an old one.
Flashback is not in the scope of the original question.

Regards
Michel

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