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Michel Cadot
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There are many questions about SQL*Plus, SQL Developer, PL/SQL Developer and no forum for them. So they are stored in "SQL & PL/SQL Newbies" which is not accurate.
Could it be possible to create a new forum for these tools and other similar ones like TOAD, DB Artisan...?
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Michel
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| Re: New forum [message #244636 is a reply to message #244568] |
Wed, 13 June 2007 10:10  |
Frank Naude
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No problem - we just need to discuss the following to establish the best way forward:
1. what forums are required;
2. under what categories should they be added.
3. are there sufficient volume to justify the new forums; and
4. can the topics be accommodated in existing forums, or can we just change some forum names and/or descriptions.
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| Re: New forum [message #244718 is a reply to message #244636] |
Wed, 13 June 2007 22:37 |
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| Frank Naude wrote on Thu, 14 June 2007 01:10 |
3. are there sufficient volume to justify the new forums;
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What's the benchmark? Collaboration Suite has 76 posts...
I would have no problem with a new major group: SQL Client Tools with perhaps the following major groups:
- SQL*Plus / iSQL*Plus
- SQL Developer
- TOAD / SQL Navigator
- Other GUI clients (SQL Scratchpad [OEM], blah, blah)
If we're talking about new forums, any further thoughts on this old request? http://www.orafaq.com/forum/t/70987/78693/ It would be nice to have a Perl DBI / ODBC / JDBC forum under Developer & Programmer.
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| Re: New forum [message #244734 is a reply to message #244718] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 00:26 |
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| rleishman wrote on Thu, 14 June 2007 05:37 |
I would have no problem with a new major group: SQL Client Tools with perhaps the following major groups:
- SQL*Plus / iSQL*Plus
- SQL Developer
- TOAD / SQL Navigator
- Other GUI clients (SQL Scratchpad [OEM], blah, blah)
If we're talking about new forums, any further thoughts on this old request? http://www.orafaq.com/forum/t/70987/78693/ It would be nice to have a Perl DBI / ODBC / JDBC forum under Developer & Programmer.
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Include PLSQL Developer (by allround automation) in the TOAD/SQL Navigator group
Include PHP somewhere in the Developer & Programmer chapter.
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| Re: New forum [message #244808 is a reply to message #244724] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 02:53 |
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| Michel Cadot wrote on Thu, 14 June 2007 14:28 | In "Perl DBI / ODBC / JDBC", add "Oracle Object for OLE" (OO4O) and "OLE DB" for MS programmer.
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Michel
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Would "Oracle Object for OLE" (OO4O) be better off grouped with "Precompilers and OCI" because it is an Oracle-specific interface rather than a database-agnostic interface (like Perl::DBI, ODBC, JDBC, and PHP". Is OLE DB in the same boat? I'm not familiar with it.
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| Re: New forum [message #245004 is a reply to message #244834] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 21:55 |
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I concur. So where are we?
- SQL and PL/SQL
- Newbies
- SQL Experts
- PL/SQL Experts
- SQL Client Tools
- SQL*Plus / iSQL*Plus
- SQL Developer
- TOAD / SQL Navigator / PL/SQL Developer
- Other GUI clients (SQL Scratchpad [OEM], blah, blah)
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Developer and Programmer
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- Precompilers, OCI, OCCI, and OO4O
- Open Database Interfaces (Perl::DBI / PHP / ODBC / JDBC / OLD DB)
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| Re: New forum [message #245013 is a reply to message #245009] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 23:51 |
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What about a separate forum Homework assignments? (I am serious about this).
Would be a great place for people to post those, without being flamed. Also, it would be a nice place for other beginners to post answers.
After all, the intention of this thread was to clean up the Newbies forum?
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| Re: New forum [message #245014 is a reply to message #245009] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 23:53 |
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| Michel Cadot wrote on Fri, 15 June 2007 05:53 | I'd not put PL/SQL Developer in the same forum as I don't think it is the same type of tool although their functionalities overlap.
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We are talking about PLSQL Developer, not Oracles SQL Developer.
PLSQL Developer has exactly the same functionality as TOAD.
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| Re: New forum [message #245092 is a reply to message #244734] |
Fri, 15 June 2007 02:40 |
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| Frank wrote on Thu, 14 June 2007 07:26 | Include PLSQL Developer (by allround automation) in the TOAD/SQL Navigator group
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Here you can check out what I mean.
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| Re: New forum [message #245197 is a reply to message #245127] |
Fri, 15 June 2007 07:34 |
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Great feedback. My suggestion would be to start with the following (we can always refine it later):
1) SQL Client Tools
Description: Tools used for executing SQL and PL/SQL commands like SQL*Plus, iSQL*Plus, SQL Developer and SQL Worksheet. Including 3rd party tools like TOAD, DB Artisan, SQL Navigator, PL/SQL Developer, etc.
- SQL and PL/SQL
- SQL & PL/SQL Newbies
- SQL Experts
- PL/SQL Experts
- SQL Client Tools
2) Open Database Interfaces
Description: Open Database programming interfaces like PHP, Perl::DBI, Ruby, ODBC, JDBC and SQLJ.
Note: OO4O & OLEDB is currently part of the Windows forum.
- Developer and Programmer
- ...
- Precompilers, OCI, OCCI
- Open Database Interfaces
Any comments, further suggestions?
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